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Exactly bvlove2u, I ... ( 7 months ago by rplende)

Exactly bvlove2u, I agree wholeheartedly. The flu is no problems at all. I would like to know what other health problems half these people had, who supposedly died of the flu. They could have been suffering some form of medical assault from doctors with drugs, that actually killed them but because they had the flu that gets the blame not the real cause.

Go find the graphs ... ( 7 months ago by rplende)

Go find the graphs of trends in these diseases since the mid 1800s. Most diseases had been 90% eradicated and declining before vaccines were introduced. Some diseases are good for us in the long run they strengthen our immune system. Drug companies, some Doctors and ignorant politicians who have been paid out tell you immunisations are safe. How come autism has increased 5 fold since the early 1990s when Hep B vaccines became widely available? On and On it goes. You are flirting with death!

check Mary Tocco's ... ( 7 months ago by befr33)

check Mary Tocco's research. there is proof available that vaccination companies have lied to doctors, and that mercury is still in vaccines. policy changes that doesn't require mercury to be reported since it's not an active ingredient, and finally that they have tried to filter out mercury from existing vaccines, which simply can't be done to 100% satisfaction. more importantly, there are no long term studies of what happens to the body. we know mercury poisoning looks very similar to autism.

I'm not going to ... ( 7 months ago by fredfighteru)

I'm not going to PAY her to hear what she has
to say.
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I suggest you look ... ( 7 months ago by fredfighteru)

I suggest you look for statistics on the incidence of paralytic polio from ~ 1800
to the present time. That incidence rose (and there is commonly accepted explanation for
why it rose until the advent of polio vaccines.
Since then it has declined to elimination in
the Americas and Europe. It persists only in
areas where the population has resisted immunization therapy.
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I don't think you ... ( 7 months ago by rplende)

I don't think you have looked into vaccinations much at all. They are an assault on the human immune system and body, they are not necessary at all there is no genuine proof of their efficacy. But if you want to take them go ahead, inject yourself with double doses if you like, you will pay the consequences not me. If you want to invade your bloodstream with mercury, formaldehyde, aluminum, cellular tissue from animal species eg.pigs monkeys and cows go right ahead!!

Obviously you have ... ( 7 months ago by fredfighteru)

Obviously you have not looked into immunology
at all, else you would be aware of the theoretical, empirical, and experimental evidence for the efficacy of vaccination.
Vaccines work hand-in-hand with the natural immune system.
All medicine, food and even the water you
drink and the air you breathe has trace impurities including mercury, formaldehyde, aluminum, cellular tissue and dung from pigs monkeys, cows, and rats, as well as bacterial spores, live viruses, arsenic, uranium, etc.
BFD!

Obviously you have ... ( 7 months ago by fredfighteru)

You are wrong. It ... ( 7 months ago by pakieire)

You are wrong. It had decreased 48% (according to CDC stats) by the time the polio vacc became mainstream. Then in 1956 there was a surge in cases. Then cases began to be renamed "aseptic meningitis with residual paralysis" in order to make it look like cased declined.

Paralytic Polio was ... ( 7 months ago by fredfighteru)

Paralytic Polio was first identified in 1840 but remained rare through most of the 1800s. The first polio epidemics were not until the 1880s, ironically brought on by improvements in sanitation.
By 1950 Polio was killing or crippling half a million people per year.
In the five years following the approval of the Salk vaccine incidence in the US dropped by 90% Less than 30 years after the Salk
vaccine was approved polio had vanished from the United States EXCEPT among unvaccinated Amish.

What the CDC REALLY ... ( 7 months ago by fredfighteru)

What the CDC REALLY says about the history of polio:
...outbreaks were first reported in the United States in 1843. For the next hundred years, epidemics of polio were reported from developed countries in the Northern Hemisphere ....
These epidemics became increasingly severe,...
Polio reached a peak in the United States in 1952, ...
following introduction of effective vaccines, polio incidence
declined rapidly. The last case of wild-virus polio acquired in
the United States was in 1979...

A large number of ... ( 7 months ago by fredfighteru)

A large number of pathogens cause meningitis.
Aseptic meningitis means that no infectious pathogen is identified as the cause.

Yes but they are ... ( 7 months ago by rplende)

Yes but they are not placed directly into the bloodstream, bypassing the first stages of immune defense. You are obviously not aware of the deceit, distortions and deliberate omissions by the drug company paid researchers, who produce the pro vaccination data you have so quickly and blindly swallowed!

I have seen ... ( 7 months ago by rplende)

I have seen countless people at my work take the flu vaccine and end up with the worst bouts of flu that I have ever seen. Yet others who have never had a flu shot in their life never get the flu. One of these guys has been with the company 11 years and has not had one sick day! Yet he has been in the presence of and even travelled to work with guys who had the flu!!

History is full of ... ( 7 months ago by fredfighteru)

History is full of cases of persons who had been vaccinated against smallpox traveling in areas where it was epidemic and yet not contracting the disease. Infection rates among vaccinated persons are well documented to be quarter(or less) of the rate of non-
vaccinated persons.
Since being vaccinated, I have NEVER had the
flue again, ever. The same is true for many
people I know.
Neither your personal experience, nor mine,
is particularly evidentiary.

There are many ... ( 7 months ago by rplende)

There are many recent cases of outbreaks of measles eg Western Sydney, an outbreak in Baltimore of either measles or one of the common diseases, (which one escapes me at the moment) where well over half the cases of the diseased people recorded (78% in the Sydney case) had been vaccinated! That spells "no Immunity" by vaccine. My wife is a nurse and knows of a case where 10 children were brought to emergency for whooping cough, 9 of them were vaccinated against it!

rplende wrote: "( ... ( 7 months ago by fredfighteru)

rplende wrote: "(78% in the Sydney case) had been vaccinated! That spells "no Immunity" by vaccine."
Wrong.
You are presenting a false dichotomy.
That something (such as vaccination) is not 100% effective, does not imply that it is 0% effective.
Some people are killed in auto accidents despite the fact that they were wearing seatbelts. Does that spell "seatbelts provide no protection in auto accidents"?
If you understand that it does not, apply that same logic to vaccination.
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A quick news search ... ( 7 months ago by fredfighteru)

A quick news search for the supposed measles outbreaks in Sydney and Baltimore has come up empty. If you provide information, sufficient for a person to find literature on the stories, I will look into them, just like I looked into your statements about the CDC.
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I am a libertarian ... ( 7 months ago by jinjit1)

I am a libertarian like Ron Paul, but I disagree with him on this issue. I don't think vaccination is a personal decision, unless you also undertake the corresponding obligation to stay in your house 24/7 lest you sicken an innocent passerby who was unable to get the vaccine for medical reasons. Getting someone else sick is an imposition, so in this case, the government is correct to mandate it.

Check Google Video, ... ( 7 months ago by befr33)

Check Google Video, won't cost more than your time... and there are plenty of other references. Dr. Tennpenny have scrutinized CDC's own documents and found many inconsistencises. Re: Polio, one reason it declined, apart from that people were becoming naturually immune before the vaccin (which actually casued a slight increase before it went down again - check the chart) was that they changed the Polio definition (?)How's that for good science?

Array ( 7 months ago by fredfighteru)

Mr jinjit1,
Here in the United States I think the odds of an unvaccinated person contracting a contagious disease, and then transmitting it to another person who wanted to be vaccinated but was unable to, is so minute as to render your argument asinine on the facts alone, without even considering the principles.
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To FF: I support ... ( 7 months ago by jinjit1)

To FF: I support gun rights, but not the right to shoot randomly in the street. Unless we prohibit people from walking around while ill, we must require vaccines, which is much more sensible and enforceable.
Additionally, calling someone "asinine" is not the most sophisticated way to add to a discussion. I suggest a more mature reaction. I am no longer reading responses (save your insults), as I have concluded that youtube is not the best venue for reasoned discussion on a mature plane.

vaccines are not ... ( 6 months ago by ScarlettLane)

vaccines are not madated actually.......if a child does not get mmr's and other vaccines, they are simply warned by medical letters sent out in schools that there is an out break or something of that matter.....There are so many ppl, that are not putting vaccinations into there children and are using other methods to keep children safe and healthy. Do you know what are in vaccines....bits of DNA...look it up. :)

yeah, until they ... ( 1 month ago by 1Nyro)

yeah, until they pump it full of thermerasol.

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